Hi Russ
Thank you for the advice about my problem.
Yes, I think I have confirmed a setting issue but it's my personal opinion.
So I would like to get various advices from you and everyone.
I up my test data of JT65B to this chat.
But my email is over 200k so I am waiting for permission from mailer.
You are able to read my result of JT65B at email.
My wish is simple, I would like to see JT65B on WSJT-X latest version.
Taka, JP3EXR
From: k2txb(a)comcast.net <k2txb(a)comcast.net>
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2023 12:56 AM
To: 'JP3EXR' <ja4lzx_3-4(a)khaki.plala.or.jp>
Subject: RE: JT65B happened problem with WSJT-X more explain
Hi Taka. It sounds like you have it set up correctly, but you need to make
sure that the rx audio from each transceiver is actually going to the input
of the correct WSJT-X. I have often seen windows reconfigure the sound card
settings. This can happen at re-boot or when some drivers get messed up, or
possibly for other reasons. So always make sure your sound card settings
are correct - especially after making any changes.
For example, I have seen where the input channel was incorrectly configured
and there was a loud hum going into WSJT. That can really kill the decoder.
Maybe that is happening to you.
If not, then I don’t know. I do know that Conrad suggested that he could
get on Team Viewer and help you remotely. Maybe that is what you need to
do.
Very 73 Taka
Russ K2TXB
From: JP3EXR <ja4lzx_3-4(a)khaki.plala.or.jp
<mailto:ja4lzx_3-4@khaki.plala.or.jp> >
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2023 5:36 AM
To: k2txb(a)comcast.net <mailto:k2txb@comcast.net>
Subject: RE: JT65B happened problem with WSJT-X more explain
Hi Russ
Thank you for the information about RIG control.
I run two JT65B of WSJT-X and I am transmitting signals only on the V-pol
IC-7400 but I am also transmitting on the H-pol IC-7400 the same time with
the PTT.
But H-side IC-7400 does not send output power because output power is
minimum and connected the dummy load on the antenna connector.
So I don't think there is too loud signal going into the H-pol IC-7400.
This is because it's to protect the receiving end of the H-pol IC-7400 when
V-pol IC-7400 is transmitting.
Thank you....
Taka, JP3EXR
From: k2txb(a)comcast.net <mailto:k2txb@comcast.net> <k2txb(a)comcast.net
<mailto:k2txb@comcast.net> >
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2023 6:09 PM
To: 'JP3EXR' <ja4lzx_3-4(a)khaki.plala.or.jp
<mailto:ja4lzx_3-4@khaki.plala.or.jp> >
Subject: RE: [Moon-Net] JT65B happened problem with WSJT-X more explain
Hello Taka. I did not study everything on your latest post, but it looks
like you have it set up right. There is one thing that might be causing
your problem though. I am assuming that only one of the copies of WSJT-X is
used for transmitting, the one connected to the polarity you want to tx on.
But that means that the one that is not transmitting is receiving during
your tx periods, and the strong signal may be overloading the rx circuits in
the one that is not transmitting. I have seen that here and I fixed the
problem by providing an isolation relay between the incoming antenna line
and the receiver that is connected to the side not transmitting. Of course
the relay is operated by the station sequencer. That solved a similar
problem both here and at K2UYH’s QTH.
Hope it helps, Taka. 73 & GL, Russ K2TXB
From: JP3EXR via Moon-net <moon-net(a)mailman.pe1itr.com
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Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2023 3:20 AM
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Subject: [Moon-Net] JT65B happened problem with WSJT-X more explain
Thank you for a lot of advice for my JT65B problem.
○Thanks Earl, WSJT-X is able to run multiple JT65B with the rig-name
parameter of desktop icons.
○Thanks Bint, I am using IC-7400 so it does not a USB cable.
But you said problem is that maybe the same problem as me.
○Thanks Jay, I just want two run JT65B on the PC. I use IC-7400 hasn't USB
cable so I doesn't set cat control so RIG name is none.
I should more explain my problem a little.
Please check the original question email for two attached files.
I am using an old two IC-7400s for the V and H-pol antenna.
So two IC-7400s hasn't USB port so I do not use CAT control, the Rig name is
None of each JT65B, and COM port "COM4" is setting for the RTS of the PTT
Method and it's sharing of two JT65B.
The V-pol IC-7400 on the left side of the screenshot is mainly so it use a
transmitting and a receiving and on the right side of screenshot H-pol
IC-7400 use a receiving only.
And I am using two USB sound cards for the V-pol IC-7400 and H-pol IC-7400.
I am setting audio, the input of the Soundcard is using a different two USB
soundcards.
But the output of the Soundcard is sharing the same USB soundcard of the
V-pol IC-7400.
I was testing the JT65B problem.
I explain the screenshot2
On the left side JT65B is V-pol, it's mainly side so it's transmit and
receive and right side JT65B is H-pol it receive only side.
What I noticed was that I turned on the "Enable TX" button on the left side
JT65B.
You can see the screenshot2, left side JT65B was transmitting, receiving
and decoding every minutes.
But you can see right side JT65B, it was the "Decode" state soon never end.
I explain the screenshot1
I turned on "Enable TX" button on the right side JT65B and then on the right
side JT65B is transmitting, receiving and decoding every minutes and on the
left side JT65B was receiving and decoding every minutes, it's normal
situation.
But I changed "Enable TX" button from on the right side to on the left side
so I turned off "Enable TX" on the right side and then I turned on "Enable
TX" on the left side.
And then JT65B became the screen shot situation.
So I think JT65B on the left side is the cause of the problem.
But I just installed WSJT-X ver2.6.1 and set the COM port and sound card.
I thought it was because of the shared sound card.
But other mode, two Q65A mode are able to run on one PC without any problem.
I am unable to find the setting difference between Q65A and JT65B.
Can someone tell me more advice for me.
Best regard.
Taka, JP3EXR
From: JP3EXR via Moon-net <moon-net(a)mailman.pe1itr.com
<mailto:moon-net@mailman.pe1itr.com> >
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2023 11:53 PM
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Subject: [Moon-Net] JT65B happened problem with WSJT-X
I am having happened problem with JT65B of WSJT-X.
I posted on the WSJT-X forum but got no reply until now.
I run two JT65B of WSJT9 for H and V-pol on one PC for now.
Joe, K1JT said WSJT-X latest version is better than other version software.
So I am thinking about replacing JT65B from WSJT9 to WSJT-X.
But I have happened problem with JT65B of WSJT-X.
I installed WSJT-X since 2.1.2 but I did not use JT65B of WSJT-X.
So I am only using JT65B of WSJT9 until now.
Of course I tried to make two folders on the C drive and clean installed
WSJT-X ver2.6.1 on this folder.
And then I made two rig-names on the desktop icon.
Then WSJT-X made two folders under AppData/local.
Of course I am able to two run Q65, FT4, FT8 and other modes on the PC and
it use no problem.
But only JT65B of WSJT-X does not two run on the PC.
You can see the attached file.
I run two JT65B side by side on the screen.
I turned on one side "Enable TX" button then the same side WSJT-X started
TX, it was normal situation.
The another side of JT65B started "Decode" after about 54 seconds.
But "Decode" condition not ended and continue so JT65B became stopped
working.
The only way to clear this error is to restart both JT65B.
This PC OS is Windows10 64 bit.
Does anyone know how two run JT65B of WSJT-X on one PC.
Otherwise I am unable to replace from WSJT9 to WSJT-X.
Someone please help me...
Taka, JP3EXR
Now I test ended with JT65B of WSJT-X ver2.6.1.
I clean installed WSJT-X 2.6.1 and then WSJT-X made WSJT install folder.
I correct to made a rig-name --rig-name=IC7400_V with the desktop icon.
I ran desktop icon then WSJT-X made IC7400_V folder under APPdata/Local.
I copied IC7400_V desktop icon to IC7400_H then made IC7400_V copy icon on
the desktop.
I corrected IC7400_V copy to IC7400_H desktop icon and made
--rig-name=IC7400_H with the desktop icon.
And I ran IC7400_H desktop icon then WSJT-X made IC7400_H folder under
APPdata/Local.
So WSJT-X made one WSJT program on C drive and made two holders of a
IC7400_V and IC7400_H under User/APPdata/Local.
And I was testing JT65B of WSJT-X.
I tested 4 pattern of soon and after 2 minutes when I run two JT65B.
There are the startup order of H and V-pol of JT65B and the startup order of
H and V-pol of "Enable TX"
But you may more need to check the "Decode" state when switching
mid-transmission of "Enable TX".
I run 2 JT65B and I check it soon.
The startup order of H and V program. the startup order of "Enable TX"
Start order of first / Start order of second / start of TX
side / Result.
Test1 a H / V / H /
Okay
Test2 a H / V / V /
Okay
Test3 a V / H / H /
Okay
Test4 a V / H / V /
No Good
I run 2 JT65B and I check it after 2 minutes.
Start order of first / Start order of second / start of TX side /
Result.
Test11 a H / V / H / Okay
Test12 a H / V / V / Okay
Test13 a V / H / H / No
Good
Test14 a V / H / V / No
Good
Probably I'm having trouble with the order in which JT65B is started.
This result is considered to be a problem in the program of JT65, not in the
settings.
Taka, JP3EXR
Hi Earl and Conrad
Thank you for the advice about WSJT-X.
I don't want over three JT65Bs on my PC so I just want two JT65Bs.
Now I am testing JT65B that Conrad said way.
I am testing now the following.
The startup order of H and V-pol of JT65B.
And the startup order of H and V-pol of "Enable TX"
I will post the results to Moon net.
Probably I'm having trouble with the order in which JT65B is started.
This result is considered to be a problem in the program of JT65, not in the settings.
I'm not an expert of the software, but I can offer suggestions for solving the problem.
Taka, JP3EXR
From: Earl Shaffer via Moon-net <moon-net(a)mailman.pe1itr.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2023 11:43 PM
To: JP3EXR <ja4lzx_3-4(a)khaki.plala.or.jp>
Cc: moon-net(a)mailman.pe1itr.com
Subject: [Moon-Net] Re: JT65B happened problem with WSJT-X more explain
Hi Taka.
If you looked at all the source code files, I think it would be easy to understand that JT65b and Q65 runs very different programs.
WSJTX is a VERY large number of subroutines connected together to the extent that it is nearly impossible (for us mere mortals) to
understand. That JT65b and Q65 act differently is then easy to conceive. The interactions with what you are doing can be very different
and mode dependant. I was looking at the source code with the idea that a computer expert would help me compile improved versions
but the expensive Windows compiler cost stopped the project very early. I think when you get to a single copy of WSJTX that everything
else based on your problem will be solved. For JT65b, you will also want to link Call3.txt so what is changed on one instance is also changed
on the other. Mine works that way with Map65 and two instances of WSJTX.
Of course none of this complexity would be needed if Map65 was updated to the same extent that WSJTX was and was made to be just as sensitive.
I wish I had that talent and $$$. Kudos to Joe Taylor and a few others for that level of talent.
It would be great if Map65 could even be linked to WSJTX. I find it puzzling that even when a single polarity feeds Map65, the waterfall on WSJTX
is far more sensitive. I don't know if this is related to the decoder sensitivity difference. Some have excused the reduced sensitivity of Map65 by saying
that it covers 96khz bandwidth, but I think it has been documented that signals inside Ftol are decoded before the 96Khz bandwidth is decoded. I think this can be seen first hand on slower computers. You are correct to run WSJTX on JT65b. The sensitivity difference is too much to be ignored.
A further possible improvement is to run 45/135 polarity to each rig as an option. That is done with a coaxial hybrid. Of course if you can handle
Linrad and complex computer setups it can all be done with an SDR as PA5Y does.
WB9UWA
On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 4:05 AM JP3EXR via Moon-net <moon-net(a)mailman.pe1itr.com <mailto:moon-net@mailman.pe1itr.com> > wrote:
Ciao Alessandro
Thank you for the information.
I think you use something Rig name.
Yes, I'm running well except JT65B of WSJT-X.
So only JT65B is causing problems all the times.
But I don't understand the cause of the problem.
Thank you
Taka, JP3EXR
From: I2SVA - Alessandro via Moon-net <moon-net(a)mailman.pe1itr.com <mailto:moon-net@mailman.pe1itr.com> >
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2023 5:33 PM
To: moon-net(a)mailman.pe1itr.com <mailto:moon-net@mailman.pe1itr.com> ; JP3EXR <ja4lzx_3-4(a)khaki.plala.or.jp <mailto:ja4lzx_3-4@khaki.plala.or.jp> >
Subject: [Moon-Net] Re: JT65B happened problem with WSJT-X more explain
User guide explains how to run multiple instances on 16.2
It works very well
Alessandro I2SVA
Inviato da iPhone
Il giorno 29 mar 2023, alle ore 12:19, Conrad PA5Y via Moon-net <moon-net(a)mailman.pe1itr.com <mailto:moon-net@mailman.pe1itr.com> > ha scritto:
Hi Taka.
Do not have 2 folders and 2 x WSJT.exe, that is not correct.
Your short cuts must point to the same exe file. Follow the steps exactly as I described and it will work. Uninstall one of the exe files, this is very important.
73
Conrad PA5Y
From: JP3EXR via Moon-net <moon-net(a)mailman.pe1itr.com <mailto:moon-net@mailman.pe1itr.com> >
Sent: 29 March 2023 10:15
To: moon-net(a)mailman.pe1itr.com <mailto:moon-net@mailman.pe1itr.com>
Subject: [Moon-Net] Re: JT65B happened problem with WSJT-X more explain
Hi Conrad
Thank you for the advice about WSJT-X
Yes, I made new two folder for WSJT-X under C drive.
And I each installed WSJT-X ver 2.6.1 so it's the same program and I made two different rig-names by the desktop icon.
So JT65B made 2 rig-names folder under Appdata/Local.
So I think I did what you said.
I don't understand why JT65B is causing trouble while Q65 is doing fine.
Taka, JP3EXR
From: Conrad PA5Y via Moon-net <moon-net(a)mailman.pe1itr.com <mailto:moon-net@mailman.pe1itr.com> >
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2023 4:59 PM
To: JP3EXR <ja4lzx_3-4(a)khaki.plala.or.jp <mailto:ja4lzx_3-4@khaki.plala.or.jp> >
Cc: Moon net <moon-net(a)mailman.pe1itr.com <mailto:moon-net@mailman.pe1itr.com> >
Subject: [Moon-Net] Re: JT65B happened problem with WSJT-X more explain
Hell Taka San you do not need 2 versions of WSJT-X, if you try to use 2 separate versions you will have problems.
Delete the 2nd folder and 2nd versions.
Now you should have one short cut on the desktop. Open the shortcut properties, you will see a box named Target. The text will say wsjt.exe.
Edit this text to …. wsjt.exe -rig name=IC7400_vertical
This will put all the data for that instance of wsjt in its own folder.
Now make a copy of this shortcut on your desktop.
Open properties and change the text in the Target to
…. wsjt.exe -rig name=IC7400_horizontal
You can name the shortcuts to IC7400_H and IC7400_V for example. That is it, this will definitely work in harmony. You must not have 2 wsjt.exe files in different locations. Try the method above, it will work fine.
73
Conrad PA5Y
From: JP3EXR via Moon-net <moon-net(a)mailman.pe1itr.com <mailto:moon-net@mailman.pe1itr.com> >
Sent: 29 March 2023 09:20
To: moon-net(a)mailman.pe1itr.com <mailto:moon-net@mailman.pe1itr.com>
Subject: [Moon-Net] JT65B happened problem with WSJT-X more explain
Thank you for a lot of advice for my JT65B problem.
○Thanks Earl, WSJT-X is able to run multiple JT65B with the rig-name parameter of desktop icons.
○Thanks Bint, I am using IC-7400 so it does not a USB cable.
But you said problem is that maybe the same problem as me.
○Thanks Jay, I just want two run JT65B on the PC. I use IC-7400 hasn't USB cable so I doesn't set cat control so RIG name is none.
I should more explain my problem a little.
Please check the original question email for two attached files.
I am using an old two IC-7400s for the V and H-pol antenna.
So two IC-7400s hasn't USB port so I do not use CAT control, the Rig name is None of each JT65B, and COM port "COM4" is setting for the RTS of the PTT Method and it's sharing of two JT65B.
The V-pol IC-7400 on the left side of the screenshot is mainly so it use a transmitting and a receiving and on the right side of screenshot H-pol IC-7400 use a receiving only.
And I am using two USB sound cards for the V-pol IC-7400 and H-pol IC-7400.
I am setting audio, the input of the Soundcard is using a different two USB soundcards.
But the output of the Soundcard is sharing the same USB soundcard of the V-pol IC-7400.
I was testing the JT65B problem.
I explain the screenshot2
On the left side JT65B is V-pol, it's mainly side so it's transmit and receive and right side JT65B is H-pol it receive only side.
What I noticed was that I turned on the "Enable TX" button on the left side JT65B.
You can see the screenshot2, left side JT65B was transmitting, receiving and decoding every minutes.
But you can see right side JT65B, it was the "Decode" state soon never end.
I explain the screenshot1
I turned on "Enable TX" button on the right side JT65B and then on the right side JT65B is transmitting, receiving and decoding every minutes and on the left side JT65B was receiving and decoding every minutes, it's normal situation.
But I changed "Enable TX" button from on the right side to on the left side so I turned off "Enable TX" on the right side and then I turned on "Enable TX" on the left side.
And then JT65B became the screen shot situation.
So I think JT65B on the left side is the cause of the problem.
But I just installed WSJT-X ver2.6.1 and set the COM port and sound card.
I thought it was because of the shared sound card.
But other mode, two Q65A mode are able to run on one PC without any problem.
I am unable to find the setting difference between Q65A and JT65B.
Can someone tell me more advice for me.
Best regard.
Taka, JP3EXR
From: JP3EXR via Moon-net <moon-net(a)mailman.pe1itr.com <mailto:moon-net@mailman.pe1itr.com> >
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2023 11:53 PM
To: moon-net(a)mailman.pe1itr.com <mailto:moon-net@mailman.pe1itr.com>
Subject: [Moon-Net] JT65B happened problem with WSJT-X
I am having happened problem with JT65B of WSJT-X.
I posted on the WSJT-X forum but got no reply until now.
I run two JT65B of WSJT9 for H and V-pol on one PC for now.
Joe, K1JT said WSJT-X latest version is better than other version software.
So I am thinking about replacing JT65B from WSJT9 to WSJT-X.
But I have happened problem with JT65B of WSJT-X.
I installed WSJT-X since 2.1.2 but I did not use JT65B of WSJT-X.
So I am only using JT65B of WSJT9 until now.
Of course I tried to make two folders on the C drive and clean installed WSJT-X ver2.6.1 on this folder.
And then I made two rig-names on the desktop icon.
Then WSJT-X made two folders under AppData/local.
Of course I am able to two run Q65, FT4, FT8 and other modes on the PC and it use no problem.
But only JT65B of WSJT-X does not two run on the PC.
You can see the attached file.
I run two JT65B side by side on the screen.
I turned on one side "Enable TX" button then the same side WSJT-X started TX, it was normal situation.
The another side of JT65B started "Decode" after about 54 seconds.
But "Decode" condition not ended and continue so JT65B became stopped working.
The only way to clear this error is to restart both JT65B.
This PC OS is Windows10 64 bit.
Does anyone know how two run JT65B of WSJT-X on one PC.
Otherwise I am unable to replace from WSJT9 to WSJT-X.
Someone please help me...
Taka, JP3EXR
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Ciao Alessandro
Thank you for the information.
I think you use something Rig name.
Yes, I'm running well except JT65B of WSJT-X.
So only JT65B is causing problems all the times.
But I don't understand the cause of the problem.
Thank you
Taka, JP3EXR
From: I2SVA - Alessandro via Moon-net <moon-net(a)mailman.pe1itr.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2023 5:33 PM
To: moon-net(a)mailman.pe1itr.com; JP3EXR <ja4lzx_3-4(a)khaki.plala.or.jp>
Subject: [Moon-Net] Re: JT65B happened problem with WSJT-X more explain
User guide explains how to run multiple instances on 16.2
It works very well
Alessandro I2SVA
Inviato da iPhone
Il giorno 29 mar 2023, alle ore 12:19, Conrad PA5Y via Moon-net <moon-net(a)mailman.pe1itr.com <mailto:moon-net@mailman.pe1itr.com> > ha scritto:
Hi Taka.
Do not have 2 folders and 2 x WSJT.exe, that is not correct.
Your short cuts must point to the same exe file. Follow the steps exactly as I described and it will work. Uninstall one of the exe files, this is very important.
73
Conrad PA5Y
From: JP3EXR via Moon-net <moon-net(a)mailman.pe1itr.com <mailto:moon-net@mailman.pe1itr.com> >
Sent: 29 March 2023 10:15
To: moon-net(a)mailman.pe1itr.com <mailto:moon-net@mailman.pe1itr.com>
Subject: [Moon-Net] Re: JT65B happened problem with WSJT-X more explain
Hi Conrad
Thank you for the advice about WSJT-X
Yes, I made new two folder for WSJT-X under C drive.
And I each installed WSJT-X ver 2.6.1 so it's the same program and I made two different rig-names by the desktop icon.
So JT65B made 2 rig-names folder under Appdata/Local.
So I think I did what you said.
I don't understand why JT65B is causing trouble while Q65 is doing fine.
Taka, JP3EXR
From: Conrad PA5Y via Moon-net <moon-net(a)mailman.pe1itr.com <mailto:moon-net@mailman.pe1itr.com> >
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2023 4:59 PM
To: JP3EXR <ja4lzx_3-4(a)khaki.plala.or.jp <mailto:ja4lzx_3-4@khaki.plala.or.jp> >
Cc: Moon net <moon-net(a)mailman.pe1itr.com <mailto:moon-net@mailman.pe1itr.com> >
Subject: [Moon-Net] Re: JT65B happened problem with WSJT-X more explain
Hell Taka San you do not need 2 versions of WSJT-X, if you try to use 2 separate versions you will have problems.
Delete the 2nd folder and 2nd versions.
Now you should have one short cut on the desktop. Open the shortcut properties, you will see a box named Target. The text will say wsjt.exe.
Edit this text to …. wsjt.exe -rig name=IC7400_vertical
This will put all the data for that instance of wsjt in its own folder.
Now make a copy of this shortcut on your desktop.
Open properties and change the text in the Target to
…. wsjt.exe -rig name=IC7400_horizontal
You can name the shortcuts to IC7400_H and IC7400_V for example. That is it, this will definitely work in harmony. You must not have 2 wsjt.exe files in different locations. Try the method above, it will work fine.
73
Conrad PA5Y
From: JP3EXR via Moon-net <moon-net(a)mailman.pe1itr.com <mailto:moon-net@mailman.pe1itr.com> >
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Subject: [Moon-Net] JT65B happened problem with WSJT-X more explain
Thank you for a lot of advice for my JT65B problem.
○Thanks Earl, WSJT-X is able to run multiple JT65B with the rig-name parameter of desktop icons.
○Thanks Bint, I am using IC-7400 so it does not a USB cable.
But you said problem is that maybe the same problem as me.
○Thanks Jay, I just want two run JT65B on the PC. I use IC-7400 hasn't USB cable so I doesn't set cat control so RIG name is none.
I should more explain my problem a little.
Please check the original question email for two attached files.
I am using an old two IC-7400s for the V and H-pol antenna.
So two IC-7400s hasn't USB port so I do not use CAT control, the Rig name is None of each JT65B, and COM port "COM4" is setting for the RTS of the PTT Method and it's sharing of two JT65B.
The V-pol IC-7400 on the left side of the screenshot is mainly so it use a transmitting and a receiving and on the right side of screenshot H-pol IC-7400 use a receiving only.
And I am using two USB sound cards for the V-pol IC-7400 and H-pol IC-7400.
I am setting audio, the input of the Soundcard is using a different two USB soundcards.
But the output of the Soundcard is sharing the same USB soundcard of the V-pol IC-7400.
I was testing the JT65B problem.
I explain the screenshot2
On the left side JT65B is V-pol, it's mainly side so it's transmit and receive and right side JT65B is H-pol it receive only side.
What I noticed was that I turned on the "Enable TX" button on the left side JT65B.
You can see the screenshot2, left side JT65B was transmitting, receiving and decoding every minutes.
But you can see right side JT65B, it was the "Decode" state soon never end.
I explain the screenshot1
I turned on "Enable TX" button on the right side JT65B and then on the right side JT65B is transmitting, receiving and decoding every minutes and on the left side JT65B was receiving and decoding every minutes, it's normal situation.
But I changed "Enable TX" button from on the right side to on the left side so I turned off "Enable TX" on the right side and then I turned on "Enable TX" on the left side.
And then JT65B became the screen shot situation.
So I think JT65B on the left side is the cause of the problem.
But I just installed WSJT-X ver2.6.1 and set the COM port and sound card.
I thought it was because of the shared sound card.
But other mode, two Q65A mode are able to run on one PC without any problem.
I am unable to find the setting difference between Q65A and JT65B.
Can someone tell me more advice for me.
Best regard.
Taka, JP3EXR
From: JP3EXR via Moon-net <moon-net(a)mailman.pe1itr.com <mailto:moon-net@mailman.pe1itr.com> >
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2023 11:53 PM
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Subject: [Moon-Net] JT65B happened problem with WSJT-X
I am having happened problem with JT65B of WSJT-X.
I posted on the WSJT-X forum but got no reply until now.
I run two JT65B of WSJT9 for H and V-pol on one PC for now.
Joe, K1JT said WSJT-X latest version is better than other version software.
So I am thinking about replacing JT65B from WSJT9 to WSJT-X.
But I have happened problem with JT65B of WSJT-X.
I installed WSJT-X since 2.1.2 but I did not use JT65B of WSJT-X.
So I am only using JT65B of WSJT9 until now.
Of course I tried to make two folders on the C drive and clean installed WSJT-X ver2.6.1 on this folder.
And then I made two rig-names on the desktop icon.
Then WSJT-X made two folders under AppData/local.
Of course I am able to two run Q65, FT4, FT8 and other modes on the PC and it use no problem.
But only JT65B of WSJT-X does not two run on the PC.
You can see the attached file.
I run two JT65B side by side on the screen.
I turned on one side "Enable TX" button then the same side WSJT-X started TX, it was normal situation.
The another side of JT65B started "Decode" after about 54 seconds.
But "Decode" condition not ended and continue so JT65B became stopped working.
The only way to clear this error is to restart both JT65B.
This PC OS is Windows10 64 bit.
Does anyone know how two run JT65B of WSJT-X on one PC.
Otherwise I am unable to replace from WSJT9 to WSJT-X.
Someone please help me...
Taka, JP3EXR
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Hi Conrad
Thank you for the advice about install WSJT-X.
I have three modes of WSJT-X ver2.6.1 on my PC, there are two of JT65B, Q65
and FT8.
But I will try to uninstall all of WSJT-X on my PC.
It’s not worry I will back up each folder under APPdata/Local.
I am able to answer after test what you said.
Please wait for a while.
Taka, JP3EXR
From: Conrad PA5Y <g0ruz(a)g0ruz.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2023 8:34 PM
To: JP3EXR <ja4lzx_3-4(a)khaki.plala.or.jp>; moon-net(a)mailman.pe1itr.com
Subject: RE: [Moon-Net] Re: JT65B happened problem with WSJT-X more explain
Hello Taka san. You should completely delete the shortcut and uninstall, not
just rename the program folder of the old one. We must be methodical so we
can be absolutely sure what it happening.
Your TX radio is IC7400_V for vertical. So later, we will name the shortcut
IC7400_V
Uninstall every instance of WSJT-X on your PC including any folders and then
Install WSJT-X V2.6.0 into C:\WSJT\wsjtx
After installation your installation should be
C:\WSJT\wsjtx\bin\wsjtx2.6.0
There will be a shortcut on the desktop, first rename this shortcut to
IC7400_V and in the Target box you will see C:\WSJT\wsjtx\bin\wsjtx2.6.0.exe
you need to add rig info, the target should be edited so it says
C:\WSJT\wsjtx\bin\wsjtx2.6.0 -rig-name=IC7400_V
‘Start in’ should say C:\WSJT\wsjtx\
Start the program, set the audio and the radio control to none and check
that it works as expected.
Close this version down for now.
Now copy the IC7400_V shortcut on the desktop, it will say IC7400_V Copy.
Rename to IC7400_H.
Open the properties.
Change the Target C:\WSJT\wsjtx\bin\wsjtx2.6.0 -rig-name=IC7400_V to
C:\WSJT\wsjtx\bin\wsjtx2.6.0 -rig-name=IC7400_H
Now start this shortcut and set your audio settings, make sure that the
Soundcard Input and Output are not the same as the IC7400_V instance.
Make absolutely sure that you have both your 2 different soundcards sample
rates set to 48kHz, for both input and output. turn down TX power on
IC7400_H to zero as you will not be using it for TX Audio.
If this works as expected you can now open IC7400_V shortcut, both should
now work without decode hanging. If this does not work I can jump on
teamviewer and check everything for you if you wish.
73
Conrad PA5Y
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Sent: 29 March 2023 10:57
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Subject: [Moon-Net] Re: JT65B happened problem with WSJT-X more explain
Hi Conrad
I tested what you said on my PC.
I renamed program folder to the same name as other one in the desktop icon.
And I uninstalled program of WSJT-X on an old holder.
But it has happened problem on the right side JT65B and it was the same
situation so "Decode" is never ends.
So I think it's not a program folder issue...
But thank you for the nice advice so I didn't know about it.
Taka, JP3EXR
From: Conrad PA5Y via Moon-net <moon-net(a)mailman.pe1itr.com
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Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2023 5:20 PM
To: JP3EXR <ja4lzx_3-4(a)khaki.plala.or.jp
<mailto:ja4lzx_3-4@khaki.plala.or.jp> >; moon-net(a)mailman.pe1itr.com
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Subject: [Moon-Net] Re: JT65B happened problem with WSJT-X more explain
Hi Taka.
Do not have 2 folders and 2 x WSJT.exe, that is not correct.
Your short cuts must point to the same exe file. Follow the steps exactly as
I described and it will work. Uninstall one of the exe files, this is very
important.
73
Conrad PA5Y
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Sent: 29 March 2023 10:15
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Subject: [Moon-Net] Re: JT65B happened problem with WSJT-X more explain
Hi Conrad
Thank you for the advice about WSJT-X
Yes, I made new two folder for WSJT-X under C drive.
And I each installed WSJT-X ver 2.6.1 so it's the same program and I made
two different rig-names by the desktop icon.
So JT65B made 2 rig-names folder under Appdata/Local.
So I think I did what you said.
I don't understand why JT65B is causing trouble while Q65 is doing fine.
Taka, JP3EXR
From: Conrad PA5Y via Moon-net <moon-net(a)mailman.pe1itr.com
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Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2023 4:59 PM
To: JP3EXR <ja4lzx_3-4(a)khaki.plala.or.jp
<mailto:ja4lzx_3-4@khaki.plala.or.jp> >
Cc: Moon net <moon-net(a)mailman.pe1itr.com
<mailto:moon-net@mailman.pe1itr.com> >
Subject: [Moon-Net] Re: JT65B happened problem with WSJT-X more explain
Hell Taka San you do not need 2 versions of WSJT-X, if you try to use 2
separate versions you will have problems.
Delete the 2nd folder and 2nd versions.
Now you should have one short cut on the desktop. Open the shortcut
properties, you will see a box named Target. The text will say wsjt.exe.
Edit this text to …. wsjt.exe -rig name=IC7400_vertical
This will put all the data for that instance of wsjt in its own folder.
Now make a copy of this shortcut on your desktop.
Open properties and change the text in the Target to
…. wsjt.exe -rig name=IC7400_horizontal
You can name the shortcuts to IC7400_H and IC7400_V for example. That is it,
this will definitely work in harmony. You must not have 2 wsjt.exe files in
different locations. Try the method above, it will work fine.
73
Conrad PA5Y
From: JP3EXR via Moon-net <moon-net(a)mailman.pe1itr.com
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Sent: 29 March 2023 09:20
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Subject: [Moon-Net] JT65B happened problem with WSJT-X more explain
Thank you for a lot of advice for my JT65B problem.
○Thanks Earl, WSJT-X is able to run multiple JT65B with the rig-name
parameter of desktop icons.
○Thanks Bint, I am using IC-7400 so it does not a USB cable.
But you said problem is that maybe the same problem as me.
○Thanks Jay, I just want two run JT65B on the PC. I use IC-7400 hasn't USB
cable so I doesn't set cat control so RIG name is none.
I should more explain my problem a little.
Please check the original question email for two attached files.
I am using an old two IC-7400s for the V and H-pol antenna.
So two IC-7400s hasn't USB port so I do not use CAT control, the Rig name is
None of each JT65B, and COM port "COM4" is setting for the RTS of the PTT
Method and it's sharing of two JT65B.
The V-pol IC-7400 on the left side of the screenshot is mainly so it use a
transmitting and a receiving and on the right side of screenshot H-pol
IC-7400 use a receiving only.
And I am using two USB sound cards for the V-pol IC-7400 and H-pol IC-7400.
I am setting audio, the input of the Soundcard is using a different two USB
soundcards.
But the output of the Soundcard is sharing the same USB soundcard of the
V-pol IC-7400.
I was testing the JT65B problem.
I explain the screenshot2
On the left side JT65B is V-pol, it's mainly side so it's transmit and
receive and right side JT65B is H-pol it receive only side.
What I noticed was that I turned on the "Enable TX" button on the left side
JT65B.
You can see the screenshot2, left side JT65B was transmitting, receiving
and decoding every minutes.
But you can see right side JT65B, it was the "Decode" state soon never end.
I explain the screenshot1
I turned on "Enable TX" button on the right side JT65B and then on the right
side JT65B is transmitting, receiving and decoding every minutes and on the
left side JT65B was receiving and decoding every minutes, it's normal
situation.
But I changed "Enable TX" button from on the right side to on the left side
so I turned off "Enable TX" on the right side and then I turned on "Enable
TX" on the left side.
And then JT65B became the screen shot situation.
So I think JT65B on the left side is the cause of the problem.
But I just installed WSJT-X ver2.6.1 and set the COM port and sound card.
I thought it was because of the shared sound card.
But other mode, two Q65A mode are able to run on one PC without any problem.
I am unable to find the setting difference between Q65A and JT65B.
Can someone tell me more advice for me.
Best regard.
Taka, JP3EXR
From: JP3EXR via Moon-net <moon-net(a)mailman.pe1itr.com
<mailto:moon-net@mailman.pe1itr.com> >
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2023 11:53 PM
To: moon-net(a)mailman.pe1itr.com <mailto:moon-net@mailman.pe1itr.com>
Subject: [Moon-Net] JT65B happened problem with WSJT-X
I am having happened problem with JT65B of WSJT-X.
I posted on the WSJT-X forum but got no reply until now.
I run two JT65B of WSJT9 for H and V-pol on one PC for now.
Joe, K1JT said WSJT-X latest version is better than other version software.
So I am thinking about replacing JT65B from WSJT9 to WSJT-X.
But I have happened problem with JT65B of WSJT-X.
I installed WSJT-X since 2.1.2 but I did not use JT65B of WSJT-X.
So I am only using JT65B of WSJT9 until now.
Of course I tried to make two folders on the C drive and clean installed
WSJT-X ver2.6.1 on this folder.
And then I made two rig-names on the desktop icon.
Then WSJT-X made two folders under AppData/local.
Of course I am able to two run Q65, FT4, FT8 and other modes on the PC and
it use no problem.
But only JT65B of WSJT-X does not two run on the PC.
You can see the attached file.
I run two JT65B side by side on the screen.
I turned on one side "Enable TX" button then the same side WSJT-X started
TX, it was normal situation.
The another side of JT65B started "Decode" after about 54 seconds.
But "Decode" condition not ended and continue so JT65B became stopped
working.
The only way to clear this error is to restart both JT65B.
This PC OS is Windows10 64 bit.
Does anyone know how two run JT65B of WSJT-X on one PC.
Otherwise I am unable to replace from WSJT9 to WSJT-X.
Someone please help me...
Taka, JP3EXR
Hi Conrad
I tested what you said on my PC.
I renamed program folder to the same name as other one in the desktop icon.
And I uninstalled program of WSJT-X on an old holder.
But it has happened problem on the right side JT65B and it was the same
situation so "Decode" is never ends.
So I think it's not a program folder issue...
But thank you for the nice advice so I didn't know about it.
Taka, JP3EXR
From: Conrad PA5Y via Moon-net <moon-net(a)mailman.pe1itr.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2023 5:20 PM
To: JP3EXR <ja4lzx_3-4(a)khaki.plala.or.jp>; moon-net(a)mailman.pe1itr.com
Subject: [Moon-Net] Re: JT65B happened problem with WSJT-X more explain
Hi Taka.
Do not have 2 folders and 2 x WSJT.exe, that is not correct.
Your short cuts must point to the same exe file. Follow the steps exactly as
I described and it will work. Uninstall one of the exe files, this is very
important.
73
Conrad PA5Y
From: JP3EXR via Moon-net <moon-net(a)mailman.pe1itr.com
<mailto:moon-net@mailman.pe1itr.com> >
Sent: 29 March 2023 10:15
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Subject: [Moon-Net] Re: JT65B happened problem with WSJT-X more explain
Hi Conrad
Thank you for the advice about WSJT-X
Yes, I made new two folder for WSJT-X under C drive.
And I each installed WSJT-X ver 2.6.1 so it's the same program and I made
two different rig-names by the desktop icon.
So JT65B made 2 rig-names folder under Appdata/Local.
So I think I did what you said.
I don't understand why JT65B is causing trouble while Q65 is doing fine.
Taka, JP3EXR
From: Conrad PA5Y via Moon-net <moon-net(a)mailman.pe1itr.com
<mailto:moon-net@mailman.pe1itr.com> >
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2023 4:59 PM
To: JP3EXR <ja4lzx_3-4(a)khaki.plala.or.jp
<mailto:ja4lzx_3-4@khaki.plala.or.jp> >
Cc: Moon net <moon-net(a)mailman.pe1itr.com
<mailto:moon-net@mailman.pe1itr.com> >
Subject: [Moon-Net] Re: JT65B happened problem with WSJT-X more explain
Hell Taka San you do not need 2 versions of WSJT-X, if you try to use 2
separate versions you will have problems.
Delete the 2nd folder and 2nd versions.
Now you should have one short cut on the desktop. Open the shortcut
properties, you will see a box named Target. The text will say wsjt.exe.
Edit this text to …. wsjt.exe -rig name=IC7400_vertical
This will put all the data for that instance of wsjt in its own folder.
Now make a copy of this shortcut on your desktop.
Open properties and change the text in the Target to
…. wsjt.exe -rig name=IC7400_horizontal
You can name the shortcuts to IC7400_H and IC7400_V for example. That is it,
this will definitely work in harmony. You must not have 2 wsjt.exe files in
different locations. Try the method above, it will work fine.
73
Conrad PA5Y
From: JP3EXR via Moon-net <moon-net(a)mailman.pe1itr.com
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Sent: 29 March 2023 09:20
To: moon-net(a)mailman.pe1itr.com <mailto:moon-net@mailman.pe1itr.com>
Subject: [Moon-Net] JT65B happened problem with WSJT-X more explain
Thank you for a lot of advice for my JT65B problem.
○Thanks Earl, WSJT-X is able to run multiple JT65B with the rig-name
parameter of desktop icons.
○Thanks Bint, I am using IC-7400 so it does not a USB cable.
But you said problem is that maybe the same problem as me.
○Thanks Jay, I just want two run JT65B on the PC. I use IC-7400 hasn't USB
cable so I doesn't set cat control so RIG name is none.
I should more explain my problem a little.
Please check the original question email for two attached files.
I am using an old two IC-7400s for the V and H-pol antenna.
So two IC-7400s hasn't USB port so I do not use CAT control, the Rig name is
None of each JT65B, and COM port "COM4" is setting for the RTS of the PTT
Method and it's sharing of two JT65B.
The V-pol IC-7400 on the left side of the screenshot is mainly so it use a
transmitting and a receiving and on the right side of screenshot H-pol
IC-7400 use a receiving only.
And I am using two USB sound cards for the V-pol IC-7400 and H-pol IC-7400.
I am setting audio, the input of the Soundcard is using a different two USB
soundcards.
But the output of the Soundcard is sharing the same USB soundcard of the
V-pol IC-7400.
I was testing the JT65B problem.
I explain the screenshot2
On the left side JT65B is V-pol, it's mainly side so it's transmit and
receive and right side JT65B is H-pol it receive only side.
What I noticed was that I turned on the "Enable TX" button on the left side
JT65B.
You can see the screenshot2, left side JT65B was transmitting, receiving
and decoding every minutes.
But you can see right side JT65B, it was the "Decode" state soon never end.
I explain the screenshot1
I turned on "Enable TX" button on the right side JT65B and then on the right
side JT65B is transmitting, receiving and decoding every minutes and on the
left side JT65B was receiving and decoding every minutes, it's normal
situation.
But I changed "Enable TX" button from on the right side to on the left side
so I turned off "Enable TX" on the right side and then I turned on "Enable
TX" on the left side.
And then JT65B became the screen shot situation.
So I think JT65B on the left side is the cause of the problem.
But I just installed WSJT-X ver2.6.1 and set the COM port and sound card.
I thought it was because of the shared sound card.
But other mode, two Q65A mode are able to run on one PC without any problem.
I am unable to find the setting difference between Q65A and JT65B.
Can someone tell me more advice for me.
Best regard.
Taka, JP3EXR
From: JP3EXR via Moon-net <moon-net(a)mailman.pe1itr.com
<mailto:moon-net@mailman.pe1itr.com> >
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2023 11:53 PM
To: moon-net(a)mailman.pe1itr.com <mailto:moon-net@mailman.pe1itr.com>
Subject: [Moon-Net] JT65B happened problem with WSJT-X
I am having happened problem with JT65B of WSJT-X.
I posted on the WSJT-X forum but got no reply until now.
I run two JT65B of WSJT9 for H and V-pol on one PC for now.
Joe, K1JT said WSJT-X latest version is better than other version software.
So I am thinking about replacing JT65B from WSJT9 to WSJT-X.
But I have happened problem with JT65B of WSJT-X.
I installed WSJT-X since 2.1.2 but I did not use JT65B of WSJT-X.
So I am only using JT65B of WSJT9 until now.
Of course I tried to make two folders on the C drive and clean installed
WSJT-X ver2.6.1 on this folder.
And then I made two rig-names on the desktop icon.
Then WSJT-X made two folders under AppData/local.
Of course I am able to two run Q65, FT4, FT8 and other modes on the PC and
it use no problem.
But only JT65B of WSJT-X does not two run on the PC.
You can see the attached file.
I run two JT65B side by side on the screen.
I turned on one side "Enable TX" button then the same side WSJT-X started
TX, it was normal situation.
The another side of JT65B started "Decode" after about 54 seconds.
But "Decode" condition not ended and continue so JT65B became stopped
working.
The only way to clear this error is to restart both JT65B.
This PC OS is Windows10 64 bit.
Does anyone know how two run JT65B of WSJT-X on one PC.
Otherwise I am unable to replace from WSJT9 to WSJT-X.
Someone please help me...
Taka, JP3EXR
Hi Conrad
Thank you for the advice about WSJT-X
Yes, I made new two folder for WSJT-X under C drive.
And I each installed WSJT-X ver 2.6.1 so it's the same program and I made
two different rig-names by the desktop icon.
So JT65B made 2 rig-names folder under Appdata/Local.
So I think I did what you said.
I don't understand why JT65B is causing trouble while Q65 is doing fine.
Taka, JP3EXR
From: Conrad PA5Y via Moon-net <moon-net(a)mailman.pe1itr.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2023 4:59 PM
To: JP3EXR <ja4lzx_3-4(a)khaki.plala.or.jp>
Cc: Moon net <moon-net(a)mailman.pe1itr.com>
Subject: [Moon-Net] Re: JT65B happened problem with WSJT-X more explain
Hell Taka San you do not need 2 versions of WSJT-X, if you try to use 2
separate versions you will have problems.
Delete the 2nd folder and 2nd versions.
Now you should have one short cut on the desktop. Open the shortcut
properties, you will see a box named Target. The text will say wsjt.exe.
Edit this text to …. wsjt.exe -rig name=IC7400_vertical
This will put all the data for that instance of wsjt in its own folder.
Now make a copy of this shortcut on your desktop.
Open properties and change the text in the Target to
…. wsjt.exe -rig name=IC7400_horizontal
You can name the shortcuts to IC7400_H and IC7400_V for example. That is it,
this will definitely work in harmony. You must not have 2 wsjt.exe files in
different locations. Try the method above, it will work fine.
73
Conrad PA5Y
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Sent: 29 March 2023 09:20
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Subject: [Moon-Net] JT65B happened problem with WSJT-X more explain
Thank you for a lot of advice for my JT65B problem.
○Thanks Earl, WSJT-X is able to run multiple JT65B with the rig-name
parameter of desktop icons.
○Thanks Bint, I am using IC-7400 so it does not a USB cable.
But you said problem is that maybe the same problem as me.
○Thanks Jay, I just want two run JT65B on the PC. I use IC-7400 hasn't USB
cable so I doesn't set cat control so RIG name is none.
I should more explain my problem a little.
Please check the original question email for two attached files.
I am using an old two IC-7400s for the V and H-pol antenna.
So two IC-7400s hasn't USB port so I do not use CAT control, the Rig name is
None of each JT65B, and COM port "COM4" is setting for the RTS of the PTT
Method and it's sharing of two JT65B.
The V-pol IC-7400 on the left side of the screenshot is mainly so it use a
transmitting and a receiving and on the right side of screenshot H-pol
IC-7400 use a receiving only.
And I am using two USB sound cards for the V-pol IC-7400 and H-pol IC-7400.
I am setting audio, the input of the Soundcard is using a different two USB
soundcards.
But the output of the Soundcard is sharing the same USB soundcard of the
V-pol IC-7400.
I was testing the JT65B problem.
I explain the screenshot2
On the left side JT65B is V-pol, it's mainly side so it's transmit and
receive and right side JT65B is H-pol it receive only side.
What I noticed was that I turned on the "Enable TX" button on the left side
JT65B.
You can see the screenshot2, left side JT65B was transmitting, receiving
and decoding every minutes.
But you can see right side JT65B, it was the "Decode" state soon never end.
I explain the screenshot1
I turned on "Enable TX" button on the right side JT65B and then on the right
side JT65B is transmitting, receiving and decoding every minutes and on the
left side JT65B was receiving and decoding every minutes, it's normal
situation.
But I changed "Enable TX" button from on the right side to on the left side
so I turned off "Enable TX" on the right side and then I turned on "Enable
TX" on the left side.
And then JT65B became the screen shot situation.
So I think JT65B on the left side is the cause of the problem.
But I just installed WSJT-X ver2.6.1 and set the COM port and sound card.
I thought it was because of the shared sound card.
But other mode, two Q65A mode are able to run on one PC without any problem.
I am unable to find the setting difference between Q65A and JT65B.
Can someone tell me more advice for me.
Best regard.
Taka, JP3EXR
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Subject: [Moon-Net] JT65B happened problem with WSJT-X
I am having happened problem with JT65B of WSJT-X.
I posted on the WSJT-X forum but got no reply until now.
I run two JT65B of WSJT9 for H and V-pol on one PC for now.
Joe, K1JT said WSJT-X latest version is better than other version software.
So I am thinking about replacing JT65B from WSJT9 to WSJT-X.
But I have happened problem with JT65B of WSJT-X.
I installed WSJT-X since 2.1.2 but I did not use JT65B of WSJT-X.
So I am only using JT65B of WSJT9 until now.
Of course I tried to make two folders on the C drive and clean installed
WSJT-X ver2.6.1 on this folder.
And then I made two rig-names on the desktop icon.
Then WSJT-X made two folders under AppData/local.
Of course I am able to two run Q65, FT4, FT8 and other modes on the PC and
it use no problem.
But only JT65B of WSJT-X does not two run on the PC.
You can see the attached file.
I run two JT65B side by side on the screen.
I turned on one side "Enable TX" button then the same side WSJT-X started
TX, it was normal situation.
The another side of JT65B started "Decode" after about 54 seconds.
But "Decode" condition not ended and continue so JT65B became stopped
working.
The only way to clear this error is to restart both JT65B.
This PC OS is Windows10 64 bit.
Does anyone know how two run JT65B of WSJT-X on one PC.
Otherwise I am unable to replace from WSJT9 to WSJT-X.
Someone please help me...
Taka, JP3EXR
Hi Conrad
Thank you for the advice about WSJT-X
Now I am able to understand what you said.
You say has one WSJT program and two rig-name files on the PC.
I will try to change a program folder to one from two with desktop icons.
I will test from now.
Thank you...
Taka
From: Conrad PA5Y via Moon-net <moon-net(a)mailman.pe1itr.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2023 5:20 PM
To: JP3EXR <ja4lzx_3-4(a)khaki.plala.or.jp>; moon-net(a)mailman.pe1itr.com
Subject: [Moon-Net] Re: JT65B happened problem with WSJT-X more explain
Hi Taka.
Do not have 2 folders and 2 x WSJT.exe, that is not correct.
Your short cuts must point to the same exe file. Follow the steps exactly as
I described and it will work. Uninstall one of the exe files, this is very
important.
73
Conrad PA5Y
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Sent: 29 March 2023 10:15
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Subject: [Moon-Net] Re: JT65B happened problem with WSJT-X more explain
Hi Conrad
Thank you for the advice about WSJT-X
Yes, I made new two folder for WSJT-X under C drive.
And I each installed WSJT-X ver 2.6.1 so it's the same program and I made
two different rig-names by the desktop icon.
So JT65B made 2 rig-names folder under Appdata/Local.
So I think I did what you said.
I don't understand why JT65B is causing trouble while Q65 is doing fine.
Taka, JP3EXR
From: Conrad PA5Y via Moon-net <moon-net(a)mailman.pe1itr.com
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Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2023 4:59 PM
To: JP3EXR <ja4lzx_3-4(a)khaki.plala.or.jp
<mailto:ja4lzx_3-4@khaki.plala.or.jp> >
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Subject: [Moon-Net] Re: JT65B happened problem with WSJT-X more explain
Hell Taka San you do not need 2 versions of WSJT-X, if you try to use 2
separate versions you will have problems.
Delete the 2nd folder and 2nd versions.
Now you should have one short cut on the desktop. Open the shortcut
properties, you will see a box named Target. The text will say wsjt.exe.
Edit this text to …. wsjt.exe -rig name=IC7400_vertical
This will put all the data for that instance of wsjt in its own folder.
Now make a copy of this shortcut on your desktop.
Open properties and change the text in the Target to
…. wsjt.exe -rig name=IC7400_horizontal
You can name the shortcuts to IC7400_H and IC7400_V for example. That is it,
this will definitely work in harmony. You must not have 2 wsjt.exe files in
different locations. Try the method above, it will work fine.
73
Conrad PA5Y
From: JP3EXR via Moon-net <moon-net(a)mailman.pe1itr.com
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Sent: 29 March 2023 09:20
To: moon-net(a)mailman.pe1itr.com <mailto:moon-net@mailman.pe1itr.com>
Subject: [Moon-Net] JT65B happened problem with WSJT-X more explain
Thank you for a lot of advice for my JT65B problem.
○Thanks Earl, WSJT-X is able to run multiple JT65B with the rig-name
parameter of desktop icons.
○Thanks Bint, I am using IC-7400 so it does not a USB cable.
But you said problem is that maybe the same problem as me.
○Thanks Jay, I just want two run JT65B on the PC. I use IC-7400 hasn't USB
cable so I doesn't set cat control so RIG name is none.
I should more explain my problem a little.
Please check the original question email for two attached files.
I am using an old two IC-7400s for the V and H-pol antenna.
So two IC-7400s hasn't USB port so I do not use CAT control, the Rig name is
None of each JT65B, and COM port "COM4" is setting for the RTS of the PTT
Method and it's sharing of two JT65B.
The V-pol IC-7400 on the left side of the screenshot is mainly so it use a
transmitting and a receiving and on the right side of screenshot H-pol
IC-7400 use a receiving only.
And I am using two USB sound cards for the V-pol IC-7400 and H-pol IC-7400.
I am setting audio, the input of the Soundcard is using a different two USB
soundcards.
But the output of the Soundcard is sharing the same USB soundcard of the
V-pol IC-7400.
I was testing the JT65B problem.
I explain the screenshot2
On the left side JT65B is V-pol, it's mainly side so it's transmit and
receive and right side JT65B is H-pol it receive only side.
What I noticed was that I turned on the "Enable TX" button on the left side
JT65B.
You can see the screenshot2, left side JT65B was transmitting, receiving
and decoding every minutes.
But you can see right side JT65B, it was the "Decode" state soon never end.
I explain the screenshot1
I turned on "Enable TX" button on the right side JT65B and then on the right
side JT65B is transmitting, receiving and decoding every minutes and on the
left side JT65B was receiving and decoding every minutes, it's normal
situation.
But I changed "Enable TX" button from on the right side to on the left side
so I turned off "Enable TX" on the right side and then I turned on "Enable
TX" on the left side.
And then JT65B became the screen shot situation.
So I think JT65B on the left side is the cause of the problem.
But I just installed WSJT-X ver2.6.1 and set the COM port and sound card.
I thought it was because of the shared sound card.
But other mode, two Q65A mode are able to run on one PC without any problem.
I am unable to find the setting difference between Q65A and JT65B.
Can someone tell me more advice for me.
Best regard.
Taka, JP3EXR
From: JP3EXR via Moon-net <moon-net(a)mailman.pe1itr.com
<mailto:moon-net@mailman.pe1itr.com> >
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2023 11:53 PM
To: moon-net(a)mailman.pe1itr.com <mailto:moon-net@mailman.pe1itr.com>
Subject: [Moon-Net] JT65B happened problem with WSJT-X
I am having happened problem with JT65B of WSJT-X.
I posted on the WSJT-X forum but got no reply until now.
I run two JT65B of WSJT9 for H and V-pol on one PC for now.
Joe, K1JT said WSJT-X latest version is better than other version software.
So I am thinking about replacing JT65B from WSJT9 to WSJT-X.
But I have happened problem with JT65B of WSJT-X.
I installed WSJT-X since 2.1.2 but I did not use JT65B of WSJT-X.
So I am only using JT65B of WSJT9 until now.
Of course I tried to make two folders on the C drive and clean installed
WSJT-X ver2.6.1 on this folder.
And then I made two rig-names on the desktop icon.
Then WSJT-X made two folders under AppData/local.
Of course I am able to two run Q65, FT4, FT8 and other modes on the PC and
it use no problem.
But only JT65B of WSJT-X does not two run on the PC.
You can see the attached file.
I run two JT65B side by side on the screen.
I turned on one side "Enable TX" button then the same side WSJT-X started
TX, it was normal situation.
The another side of JT65B started "Decode" after about 54 seconds.
But "Decode" condition not ended and continue so JT65B became stopped
working.
The only way to clear this error is to restart both JT65B.
This PC OS is Windows10 64 bit.
Does anyone know how two run JT65B of WSJT-X on one PC.
Otherwise I am unable to replace from WSJT9 to WSJT-X.
Someone please help me...
Taka, JP3EXR
Thank you for a lot of advice for my JT65B problem.
○Thanks Earl, WSJT-X is able to run multiple JT65B with the rig-name
parameter of desktop icons.
○Thanks Bint, I am using IC-7400 so it does not a USB cable.
But you said problem is that maybe the same problem as me.
○Thanks Jay, I just want two run JT65B on the PC. I use IC-7400 hasn't USB
cable so I doesn't set cat control so RIG name is none.
I should more explain my problem a little.
Please check the original question email for two attached files.
I am using an old two IC-7400s for the V and H-pol antenna.
So two IC-7400s hasn't USB port so I do not use CAT control, the Rig name is
None of each JT65B, and COM port "COM4" is setting for the RTS of the PTT
Method and it's sharing of two JT65B.
The V-pol IC-7400 on the left side of the screenshot is mainly so it use a
transmitting and a receiving and on the right side of screenshot H-pol
IC-7400 use a receiving only.
And I am using two USB sound cards for the V-pol IC-7400 and H-pol IC-7400.
I am setting audio, the input of the Soundcard is using a different two USB
soundcards.
But the output of the Soundcard is sharing the same USB soundcard of the
V-pol IC-7400.
I was testing the JT65B problem.
I explain the screenshot2
On the left side JT65B is V-pol, it's mainly side so it's transmit and
receive and right side JT65B is H-pol it receive only side.
What I noticed was that I turned on the "Enable TX" button on the left side
JT65B.
You can see the screenshot2, left side JT65B was transmitting, receiving
and decoding every minutes.
But you can see right side JT65B, it was the "Decode" state soon never end.
I explain the screenshot1
I turned on "Enable TX" button on the right side JT65B and then on the right
side JT65B is transmitting, receiving and decoding every minutes and on the
left side JT65B was receiving and decoding every minutes, it's normal
situation.
But I changed "Enable TX" button from on the right side to on the left side
so I turned off "Enable TX" on the right side and then I turned on "Enable
TX" on the left side.
And then JT65B became the screen shot situation.
So I think JT65B on the left side is the cause of the problem.
But I just installed WSJT-X ver2.6.1 and set the COM port and sound card.
I thought it was because of the shared sound card.
But other mode, two Q65A mode are able to run on one PC without any problem.
I am unable to find the setting difference between Q65A and JT65B.
Can someone tell me more advice for me.
Best regard.
Taka, JP3EXR
From: JP3EXR via Moon-net <moon-net(a)mailman.pe1itr.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2023 11:53 PM
To: moon-net(a)mailman.pe1itr.com
Subject: [Moon-Net] JT65B happened problem with WSJT-X
I am having happened problem with JT65B of WSJT-X.
I posted on the WSJT-X forum but got no reply until now.
I run two JT65B of WSJT9 for H and V-pol on one PC for now.
Joe, K1JT said WSJT-X latest version is better than other version software.
So I am thinking about replacing JT65B from WSJT9 to WSJT-X.
But I have happened problem with JT65B of WSJT-X.
I installed WSJT-X since 2.1.2 but I did not use JT65B of WSJT-X.
So I am only using JT65B of WSJT9 until now.
Of course I tried to make two folders on the C drive and clean installed
WSJT-X ver2.6.1 on this folder.
And then I made two rig-names on the desktop icon.
Then WSJT-X made two folders under AppData/local.
Of course I am able to two run Q65, FT4, FT8 and other modes on the PC and
it use no problem.
But only JT65B of WSJT-X does not two run on the PC.
You can see the attached file.
I run two JT65B side by side on the screen.
I turned on one side "Enable TX" button then the same side WSJT-X started
TX, it was normal situation.
The another side of JT65B started "Decode" after about 54 seconds.
But "Decode" condition not ended and continue so JT65B became stopped
working.
The only way to clear this error is to restart both JT65B.
This PC OS is Windows10 64 bit.
Does anyone know how two run JT65B of WSJT-X on one PC.
Otherwise I am unable to replace from WSJT9 to WSJT-X.
Someone please help me...
Taka, JP3EXR
Hi Conrad
Thanks for the advice about sound card.
I sent more explain of my JT65B problem.
I am using two USB sound cards.
I have to always run an audio out from the V-pol sound card to two IC-7400s for V and H-pol.
But I can not understand what you said about dump the TX audio into a dummy soundcard.
This is because the transmission is over of JT65B and then JT65B decode every times.
JT65B is transmitting signal until about 50 seconds every minutes and then JT65B is decoding signals every about 54 seconds every minutes.
So I don't think there will be a large signal going around on the receiving side.
But sorry I don't understand the processing during reception of JT65B.
Taka, JP3EXR
From: Conrad PA5Y via Moon-net <moon-net(a)mailman.pe1itr.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2023 4:00 PM
To: Jay Baack <whereisjay(a)gmail.com>; Earl Shaffer <wb9uwa(a)gmail.com>
Cc: JP3EXR <ja4lzx_3-4(a)khaki.plala.or.jp>; moon-net(a)mailman.pe1itr.com
Subject: [Moon-Net] Re: JT65B happened problem with WSJT-X
This is absolutely no problem and Jay is correct. I run 4 decoders simultaneously on 2m, 0, 45,90 and 135 deg.
The instructions are correct in the GM4FVM blog.
Hanging decodes are usually caused by excessive audio levels from the audio monitor during TX periods. My solution is to enable TX on all instances of WSJT-X running and to dump the TX audio into a dummy soundcard for all but the ‘master’ which of course has TX audio connected to the radio.
Regards
Conrad PA5Y
From: Jay Baack via Moon-net <moon-net(a)mailman.pe1itr.com <mailto:moon-net@mailman.pe1itr.com> >
Sent: 29 March 2023 04:08
To: Earl Shaffer <wb9uwa(a)gmail.com <mailto:wb9uwa@gmail.com> >
Cc: JP3EXR <ja4lzx_3-4(a)khaki.plala.or.jp <mailto:ja4lzx_3-4@khaki.plala.or.jp> >; moon-net(a)mailman.pe1itr.com <mailto:moon-net@mailman.pe1itr.com>
Subject: [Moon-Net] Re: JT65B happened problem with WSJT-X
You can run more than 1 instance of WSJT-x at one time, I run 5 instances on 6m alone.
You have to add extra code in the target line of the properties tab of the shortcut. Now, I have never tried to specifically run more than 1 instance of JT65B, but multiple instances of WSJT-X does work.
Directions are here:
http://gm4fvm.blogspot.com/2021/02/multiple-instances-of-wsjt-x-using-more.…
- Jay N1AV
On Tue, Mar 28, 2023 at 6:11 PM Earl Shaffer via Moon-net <moon-net(a)mailman.pe1itr.com <mailto:moon-net@mailman.pe1itr.com> > wrote:
Hi Taka.
You can only run one of each instance of WSJTX. The second screen shot shows a total of 3 instances which will not work.
Earl.
On Tue, Mar 28, 2023 at 6:50 PM JP3EXR via Moon-net <moon-net(a)mailman.pe1itr.com <mailto:moon-net@mailman.pe1itr.com> > wrote:
I am having happened problem with JT65B of WSJT-X.
I posted on the WSJT-X forum but got no reply until now.
I run two JT65B of WSJT9 for H and V-pol on one PC for now.
Joe, K1JT said WSJT-X latest version is better than other version software.
So I am thinking about replacing JT65B from WSJT9 to WSJT-X.
But I have happened problem with JT65B of WSJT-X.
I installed WSJT-X since 2.1.2 but I did not use JT65B of WSJT-X.
So I am only using JT65B of WSJT9 until now.
Of course I tried to make two folders on the C drive and clean installed WSJT-X ver2.6.1 on this folder.
And then I made two rig-names on the desktop icon.
Then WSJT-X made two folders under AppData/local.
Of course I am able to two run Q65, FT4, FT8 and other modes on the PC and it use no problem.
But only JT65B of WSJT-X does not two run on the PC.
You can see the attached file.
I run two JT65B side by side on the screen.
I turned on one side "Enable TX" button then the same side WSJT-X started TX, it was normal situation.
The another side of JT65B started "Decode" after about 54 seconds.
But "Decode" condition not ended and continue so JT65B became stopped working.
The only way to clear this error is to restart both JT65B.
This PC OS is Windows10 64 bit.
Does anyone know how two run JT65B of WSJT-X on one PC.
Otherwise I am unable to replace from WSJT9 to WSJT-X.
Someone please help me...
Taka, JP3EXR
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